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Old 07-25-2006, 01:21 PM   #1
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Google doesnt seem forthcoming on a defenition of this. Seems to be a Philipine word, but I can't find a specific defenition, other than that it's vaguely derogotory. Since we are going to be promoting pRFO, could someone at least define this word for the rest of us?
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Old 07-25-2006, 03:21 PM   #2
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Found this with google:

The Origin of the Jologs
The writer is a Palanca winner for poetry.


Being the True, the Good, the Beautiful and the Definitive Meaning of 'Jolog' (or When is the Squattah Not the Othah)
So many jolog definitions on the Net and yet most are inaccurate.
I asked my students the origins of the word and they gave me all these palusot (weak reasons)--that it's the baduy, bakya crowd of the 90's, that like :censored:roaches, their number is legion, and they are here to stay. Seems that to most of them, it's even cool to be jolog, better than being coņo. And though the pa-coņo kids (junior social climbers) are frowned upon, the worst type of poseur, according to them is someone who's feeling jolog.


But they can't quite define it. A few things we agreed upon, though:
1) It seems that anyone who's past a certain age can't be jolog, so there's no such thing as an old jolog. All of them are young. Jolog isn't actually baduy, but if you're old and baduy, you're just that: matanda (old) na kasi.
2) Someone can be jolog and not be aware of it, in the same way that someone can be coņo and not be aware of it.
3) People can be in denial of their ka-jologan or ka-coņohan.
4) "Jolog" and "coņo" are not antonyms (though the student that everyone hates in my last class insists that the two terms are synonymous).
5) The term "jologz" is not the plural of "jolog" (and that same student insists that the former is an adjective and the
latter is a noun. A bit of trivia though: this is the same student who declared in class that "a gay [sic] is a bad and sad person", to which his seatmate replied: "Yes, but a closeted one is even sadder."
6) The term "jolog" is different from "squatter," "squating" and "squattah." Though it might follow the tradition of "bakya" and "baduy", there's more to being a jolog than the two terms.
Then we came to the etymology of the word. Where the hell did it come from?


The True: Jolog came from Jolina
It's what a fan of hers is called. "Jol" from Jolina + "og" like the suffix -ite or -ian. "But we've never heard of a suffix -og to mean 'follower,' complained one of my more inquisitive students. Besides, the word was in existence before Jolina became a star. "Besides," my student added, "Jolina's not jolog. At most, she's baduy."


The Good: The word originally referred to the Pinoy hiphop, or hiffhaffers, especially those seen walking as a group in malls.
Hiphop fashion includes those very loose and wide pants that were huhulog-hulog (kept falling). "Hulog" later was spelled "Julog" until it was ****ounced "ju-log", then its final form: "jo-log". Many students were shaking their heads. "That sounds too easy, too obvious."


The Beautiful: The etymology I'm familiar with (and that makes the most sense to me) is geographically specific. The term was coined by high school students in Quezon City, specifically those familiar with Quezon Avenue in the 80's. Back then, across National Bookstore, Quezon Avenue, was a disco that was rumored to be owned or co-owned by Edu Manzano. This disco was cheap compared to the popular discos of the time that were in Makati. In fact, the place was called "the squatter of discos". This establishment had a pretentious name: Jaloux. The disco played really baduy disco music, and people who
frequented the place were young fashion victims who were quite feeling and baduy themselves.
High school students from private schools would tease each other: "Hey pare, I saw you at Jaloux last night." This was such an insult.
Eventually other schools picked this up. "Si John, pumupuntang Jaloux." "Wow, John, Jaloux ka pala." Eventually it became an adjective too. "Kadiri, Melanie's Jaloux." How it jumped from "jaloux" to "jolog", I'm not quite sure. But some of my students say, maybe the patrons couldn't ****ounce the pretentious name of the disco properly, they said it "Ja-Lou-kh", "Ja-Look", until it eventually became "Jaloog" then "Jolog."
Jaloux disco is gone, but the jolog remains. They lost their dancing shoes and disco outfits and went to the malls as hiphoppers.
Eventually they got tired of that and decided to wear all black and hang out at Club Dredd when it moved to Cubao. This was parodied in the "Circus" album of the Eraserheads.


The Definitive: "Sorry, sir," said one of my students,
"but I think you're mistaken. We discussed this in our philosophy class by accident and it seems that the "jolog" word's origin comes from food."
"What?"
"You don't recognize it now because the spelling's changed, but it was actually originally spelled as 'diyolog' which stands for dilis (anchovies), tuyo (dried fish) and itlog (egg)--the food of the poor.
And it was used like this: 'Oh, look she eats diyolog.' Later it
became 'Look, diyolog, o.' Until the 'diy' got changed to 'j', hence 'jolog.'"
A brief pause. Then one obnoxious student raised his hand: "I like her definition more than yours. Yours is too complicated, naman."
What could I say? "I like mine."
Then one student: "We like hers." And another: "Oo nga, sir." Soon most everyone in class agreed that the food explanation was better than the disco explanation. One student even had the gall to lecture me: "Sir, the saying is, 'You are what you eat,' not 'You are what you dance.'"
"Oo nga," said the class echo. "Si sir talaga."


At least almost everyone had a strong opinion about it, everyone except that student who everyone in class doesn't like, who everyone suspects to be a closet case. He was miles away, looking out the window.
"And what does he prefer?" I pointed to him.
"Men," whispered the mousey girl in the front row, loud
enough for the whole class to hear.
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:42 AM   #3
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:lol:

Oh. My. God. Paulo Manalo is going to have a laugh at that (he's the author of that piece and I know him personally).

Anyways, nobody can pinpoint the exact etymology of the word nor can pin down the exact definition as the word is still evolving.

In the context of the Philippine MMOG scene, however, the j0l0gz are those who:
1. Keep pestering you to give money or items.
2. Keep pestering you to tank them.
3. Shout obscenities all over the place.
4. et al.

In short, j0l0gz in the Philippine MMOG scene is the utterly obnoxious player.

Hope that helps. :y: Unfortunately we'll have to wait with baited breath if they will be present in pRFO, though I'm hoping they won't be. :no:
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Old 07-27-2006, 12:46 AM   #4
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Jologs = Jolina Organization.
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Old 08-03-2006, 01:01 PM   #5
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lolz :lol:
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Old 08-03-2006, 02:28 PM   #6
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Or, something more simple.

Jologs = a lamer.
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Old 08-06-2006, 12:25 AM   #7
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Yeah
Ppl who have nothing more to do. Jologz
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Old 08-07-2006, 09:03 PM   #8
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j0l0gz = lamer

Short and sweet. Nice one Loki! :y:
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Old 08-08-2006, 12:37 AM   #9
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Quote:
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lolz :lol:

you won't believe it, but thats where it got its name.
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Old 08-08-2006, 04:22 AM   #10
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you won't believe it, but thats where it got its name.

Nope!

Take a look at the second post on this thread. The writer of that piece is Paolo Manalo, a UP Diliman College of Arts and Letters professor. Nobody can agree on a definitive entymology to the term. It's still evolving so it's fruitless to try and pin in down at this point.
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